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Is BIM Manager a dirty word?
« on: January 31, 2017, 04:11:01 pm »
In today's world the title of BIM Manager is being given to anyone claiming the know BIM. This is leading to misinformation and confusion towards BIM. You can not simply change the title of a CAD Manager to BIM Manager, or a Revit Modeler to BIM Manager.

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Re: Is BIM Manager a dirty word?
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2017, 11:31:51 pm »
Love this topic!  So within IBI Group we avoid the use of "Manager" as it implies people leadership, staff / salary reviews, etc.  Our career framework calls it a "BIM Coordination Specialist" and we have four levels from junior to senior with increasing responsibility, breadth of influence, and increase in responsibility.  We tend to move it away from software-specific particulars, but rather to be accountable for those.  Thus when fulfilling the BIM Coordinator role on a project (or BIM Manager, etc.) we set the expectations based on the level within the career framework, ability to lead, delegate, engage software specialists, etc.

For us, a "BIM Manager" can have absolutely zero Revit experience, but still manage / coordinate a project that uses Revit as one of the authoring tools.
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Re: Is BIM Manager a dirty word?
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2017, 09:10:05 am »
I am also not a fan of the title "BIM Manager", although that is my title and the one that seems mostly commonly used/understood.  It does carry specific connotations and carry over from the CAD Manager title.  Agreed we do not want to get hung up on titles however a title does provide insight to others about our role and responsibilities in our organization.  This is a new role ... new role should get a new title.  It would be beneficial if their is some consistency for it across the industry.   8) ::) ;) (testing emojis)
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Re: Is BIM Manager a dirty word?
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2017, 11:49:31 am »
Good thread (said the personally affected user)! That's now my title and in my group the definition, while hazy, implies more than just Revit-capable but does not indicate a supervisor role. Having something 'standard' to refer to would be very helpful in defining project roles and expectations for Project Managers (along with salary ranges, of course). There's a pretty wide swath of potential ability, interest and responsibility associated with any of these "BIM" titles; I think everyone along the chain would benefit by understanding the definition better.
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Re: Is BIM Manager a dirty word?
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2017, 10:13:52 am »
This is a great topic! I agree that there should be an industry guideline to provide more clarity. In my opinion, a BIM Manager is involved with aiding the transition between a CAD workflow to a BIM workflow. This does NOT necessarily mean that a CAD Manager is the right person to handle this. This means that someone who is fluent in BIM and forward thinking is working with the executives developing strategies to improve the efficiency of the business and motivating the company to adopt BIM. They also have a general responsibility of overseeing the office's BIM projects, but the day-to-day execution on the project is handled by a BIM Coordinator. 

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Re: Is BIM Manager a dirty word?
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2017, 10:31:26 am »
It sounds like lack of consistency and terminology is a common issue here. I'm new to Canada and to my company (I'm from the UK!). We are currently having discussions around the whole role title and levels within the team. It's interesting that you are all using the term 'BIM', my company has adopted the VDC title which I thought was more commonly used over here, but it may have travelled up from America!

It think the issue stems from the lack of awareness of what 'BIM' actually is. People that I speak to even today think BIM is a technology, a 3D model, or even more frustrating Revit...  >:( Until the industry starts understanding that it a collaborative process then we will still get this issue, especially for job advertisements.
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Re: Is BIM Manager a dirty word?
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2017, 12:17:27 pm »
Interesting point about "VDC" Dave. It is starting to appear more and more here. It seems a little more appropriate for management levels and helps shed the connotations that exist with BIM. VDC implies more heavily on the fact that there is integration with the design instead of just another tool that you design in.

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Re: Is BIM Manager a dirty word?
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2017, 12:49:36 pm »
I see "VDC" used in Canada mostly by General Contractors and those oriented around the construction phase of a project. Maybe just coincidence? Or trend? Definitely from a US influence.

On another note, if our Practice Manual for BIM in Canada would finally get published, we have some sections that get into a more detailed analysis of roles and responsibilities.

Dave, PAS1192 has "standardized" the role of "Information Manager". How has this helped the (UK) situation in terms of role definitions and labelling?
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Re: Is BIM Manager a dirty word?
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2017, 02:13:17 pm »
I am a VDC Manager. That being said, I've been a BIM Coordinator for 2 years and then a VDC Coordinator for another 5 years after that. I didn't become a Manager until I was brought into the head office and tasked with overseeing the deployment and support of BIM Coordinators in Eastern Canada. Thus, I believe my title fits with the expected definition of the previous posters in this thread. However, in my position, my previous experience in Navisworks and Revit is definitely an asset - from initial project setup (software strengths & weaknesses) to ongoing project support (new BIM Coordinator needs help with software) and into project handover (as-builts, coordination progress history, coordination sign-off).